How can relatives and friends help a schizophrenic patient?

Relatives and friends may not change much about the disease itself, but they can help those affected. You can e.g. carefully monitor whether the disease may be worsening and ensure that those affected get help quickly.

Wrong answer: "You only imagine that"

Above all, it is important to tolerate the potentially strange behaviors and thoughts tolerantly and with understanding. That may be difficult, but it makes little sense to try to talk anything out. If people with schizophrenia are afraid of things that do not exist, or if they hear voices, then sentences like "But there's nothing there, you just picture yourself" are out of place. Because those affected actually hear these voices, even if they do not exist for their environment.

Schizophrenia - man

Of course that does not mean that you should reinforce such thoughts with confirmation. First and foremost, try to be there and listen, so that your thoughts and concerns are neutral. If the situation requires it (menacing development, fears, acute crisis), you should consult the doctor or, if this fails, get professional help.

Authors: Dr. med. Julia Hofmann & Dr. med. med. Jörg Zorn

Do you have your own experiences or a different opinion? Then write a comment (please observe rules).
Comments (42)
Despair and helplessness
42 Friday, June 22, 2018 at 22:06
Annette
Christine and Bernd,
I am shaken by your reports. While reading, I could draw many parallels to the illness of my son, and tears came to my eyes. My son (30 years old) had 9 years ago a psychosis. He has a schizophrenic syndrome with symptoms that are currently hebephrenic. I would like to talk to you so much !? At the moment, I do not understand the world anymore. The laws in Germany are really the last! If there are no changes then we have to watch our sick children break down. Every doctor decides only according to the laws
Help
41 Monday, 18 June 2018 at 16:00
Christine
"Get professional help into the house" !? This certainly refers to the socio-psychiatric service of Caritas or similar social institutions. These are available in almost every city, and the specialist staff also makes home visits - if the person concerned wants it. Otherwise, if your friend threatens a suicide, do not hesitate to call the emergency service! Before something worse happens! Good luck.
Help
40 Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 16:34
Dirk
Can someone tell me what exactly is meant by "bringing professional help into the house"? A very, very good and old friend of us urgently needs this help! With her family and the rest of her friends, she only encounters absolute misunderstandings, so that she has already given us suicidal thoughts. Add to that the extremely bad impression of their current condition! * Emergency! We are worried and urge for help. Thank you.
olanzapine
39 Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 06:18
Christine
Everybody reacts differently to neuroleptics. Some people do gain weight, others do not. You have to try it, how to handle it. Olanzapine is supposed to make you fat, but my son did not gain weight.
Who knows risperidone and olazapine?
38 Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 10:25
Bernd
Who knows risperidone and olanzapine? Do you make you fat? And if so, how strong? Are there neuroleptics that do not increase so much?
For Bernd
37 Wednesday, 04 April 2018 at 06:33
Christine
That's good news!
I keep my fingers crossed for you both to find each other again and your son takes future help.
All the best!
Sandro was found
36 Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 14:02
Bernd
This morning my son Sandro was found neglected in a park in Regensburg - by policemen, to whom one must be very grateful. Because they could persuade him to voluntarily go to psychiatry. I hope that everything will be fine now.
For Christine
35 Thursday, the 22ndMarch 2018 at 09:16
Bernd
Hello Christine,
At that time (2012) the court decided against my son's compulsory treatment for a short time.
And maybe he got some syringes right at the beginning. Unfortunately, when I was in the clinic 4 days later, my son did not want to see me and let me out of the hospital room. But I was told that he took the tablets without hesitation.

I suspect one will also return to this method.
By Professor dr. Andreas Heinz from the Charité Berlin and future president of the German Society of Psychiatry and Psychotherapy I have now read that he said: "I am for forced therapy. I think people have a right to get them out of their psychosis. "After that, they could freely decide if they want therapy. "In psychosis, they do not have that freedom of choice."

Unfortunately, I found only one link to this murderous story:
https://www.welt.de/print/die_welt/hamburg/article173639048/Eine-Krankheit-eine-Familie-und-ein-Mord.html
Answer for Bernd
34 Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 21:40
Christine
Hello Bernd,
it all sounds so terrible, and I can only send my sympathy to an affected mother to you. I do not know where you live, but with me there (but I have to go 45 minutes), for example. a group called APK (members of the mentally ill).
We meet once a month. I was there again today. It helps if you can talk to people affected. We always have a doctor as well as experienced sufferers. And they often have some advice.
As far as I know, there is this group in every city. You can find it out on the internet by typing in APK and its place of residence. Try it. Maybe someone knows there advice.
I know what you are going through. My son had already disappeared twice. Once in Spain, and last year he reappeared in psychiatry in Croatia. He then contacted us and then stayed with us for 2 weeks. Unfortunately, the delusion took over and we called the police. Since then he is in the clinic. But due to our laws, he can not be treated in the clinic against his will. He will be fired - and the whole "shit" starts again.
For Christine
33 Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 16:59
Bernd
Hello Christine,
I did not receive an answer from a social worker who had been designated as a supervisor and to whom I had sent all the documents of my son Sandro G. He was, so to speak, only present as an unanswered mailbox. The caregiver has the right to deny information to relatives. On the other hand, he does not need to report a runaway carer as missing. I was informed by the judiciary in Mainz (inter alia because of data protection).

A professional guardian who did nothing but collect (maximum amount) - even when my son fled - was on collection. The care was lifted when the high unemployment benefit 1 of my son was over. That was after more than a year, after he had fled from Mainz in his madness and only with what he carried on his body. (The supervisor was responsible neither for wages and account nor for assets).
He would, however, have been responsible for the apartment. What he did not do. Here I would have had to report to the detective, which I did not because of lack of success. From the apartment, which had been dismissed by the housing company, because my son had not transferred anything, their contents (including important documents) were stolen. Because one symptom of the disease is that he broke off contact with loved ones, I had no authority from him or from this carer. Thus, I was denied access to the apartment. So I drove in vain to Mainz to save something even before the (criminal) eviction (including laptop, TV, Opel factory documents, skilled worker letter, cash).

I assume that today's justice will not save my son, as he did in 2012, and will not give him a second chance. It causes such homeless people to die from their psychosis (illness), which can happen quickly with these patients. That is, it is quite possible that out of shame they tend to commit suicide.

As for your son, he will not come out of psychosis without pills. That's the only way to save him. The disease is chronic and he may need to take pills forever. The problem is to find only those drugs that do not make you fat.

After my son was released in Ansbach, he got from the university psychiatry Mainz only fattening. Teaching physicians (resident physicians), who felt that they had little idea, but instead were more in the hands of the pharmaceutical representatives.
My son became normal again.He worked again, visiting his mother at Easter and contacting me - until he thought he could do without the pills. Afterwards he heard voices again.
Hungary, Egypt, Nuremberg - all lost! He broke off all contact again, went to southern Italy, then back to Nuremberg to end his suicide interrupted in Italy.
Answer for Bernd
32 Monday, March 19, 2018 at 12:03 pm
Christine
Hello Bernd,
I had to cry spontaneously when I let your report. My son is also suffering from schizophrenia (report on this page in front of you) and has similar disease features. He always wants to travel. So far, we've always paid for everything, but in the long run, it ruins all those involved.
Why does not your son have a carer? That could help with a missing person report. Does not your son ever get in touch with you?
For me, I have already considered that I go with our case to the public. Otherwise the legislation will not change.
I wish you a lot of strength, and that your son will report soon and come to the insight.
How can I give up a missing person report and have someone forcibly help you?
31 Sunday, March 18, 2018 at 14:27
Bernd
In 2012, when my son contracted paranoid schizophrenia, a dedicated judge made sure that he was sent to a clinic to escape compulsory homicide as a suspected homeless person. Afterwards he seemed cured and worked again as a skilled worker at Opel. After 2 years, he believed he could do without the prescribed tablets: the relapse came!
He lost everything: work and home. In Nuremberg, living on the street and mentally burdened, he lost his high Arbeitslosengelt 1 and also gave away his smartphone. Nevertheless, the judge responsible here in 2015 refused a compulsory admission to a clinic for re-examination with possible subsequent therapy - as it had previously occurred.
When you finally got a street worker on him, you probably scared him away. He disappeared.
In January 2017, he was forced to enter psychiatry in southern Italy. He had traveled there. He could not speak Italian, fed on garbage cans and wandered around in that way for over a year. He did not speak to anyone. Until, by chance, a nun recognized his illness and suicide on installments and forced him to be consigned.
After being treated with pills in psychiatry, he could be put on a plane - so to speak as a "helpless" person.
At the suggestion of the Embassy in Rome, as well as on the basis of a translated Italian medical certificate, he was to be forcibly returned from the arrivals terminal, but the competent Berlin court refused.
A caregiver (lawyer) appointed only for a few months appointed the Social Service of Frankfurt Airport (which only existed here) and presented my son with the choice: clinic or homeless shelter in Frankfurt. He chose the homeless shelter where he should be taken by a stewardess. So he got a S-Bahn ticket to a homeless shelter in the station quarter. But, all in all, that was it for him too. After 4 weeks he was gone.
In December, I heard from a police officer that he was walking around Nuremberg near the train station. Again at the court. In Nuremberg. That suggested that you get him out of his psychosis. Was, however, in vain.
I suspect that although our current judiciary knows that among homeless people, who may be suicidal in their natural course of illness, they now allow death, rather than providing a necessary rehab as before. Instead of trying to get these homeless people - even involuntarily - out of their psychosis, they let them cruelly die. For the life expectancy of such patients is very short in homelessness. Especially in cold Germany.
How can I get him out of psychosis involuntarily? It might be his salvation!
Maybe he has now committed anonymous suicide because he has disappeared.
Unfortunately, the police does not record missing persons. Maybe someone can tell me how to make this ad for a homeless person so that my son will not be buried somewhere as an anonymous dead man?
Psychosis of my son
30 Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 17:54
Christine
Our son (27) has been suffering from paranoid schizophrenia for several years. He is currently in the clinic for the fourth time. We had a reasonable judge and also a medical examiner. Due to his very aggressive behavior, he was sent to a protective facility for 1 year.
We had found a facility that would have taken him without medication (our son is a strict drug denier).
Unfortunately, he was only there for one day, after which he was sent back to the clinic. He got such an aggressive fit there that all inmates and caregivers were afraid of him. Since then he is in the clinic. And so far nowhere was found another place without drugs. The briefing runs at the beginning of July, d.J. out. Currently he had a relapse in the clinic. He is feeling bad. Thanks to our law, however, all hands are bound for treatment. We can all just watch. In all likelihood, he will have to be laid off, and we as parents can only watch him gradually die!
He is adult before the law and has the right to decide for himself how he wants to live. Only that he is not able to answer for his decisions !!
Help
29 Monday, March 5, 2018 at 1:22 pm
Sandra Breiter
I had professional help in the house. Due to the PsychKG (mental illness law) my son was taken. Against his will! After 3 days he was out of psychiatry again because another judge challenged the PsychKG.
Now my son is completely confused and drug-eating around the area.
Aside from empty promises, as a mother I have not got any help yet. I am so helpless and helpless. I love my son about everything, but can not help him! Out of desperation, I broke off contact with him. In order not to perish, I now go the way of repression - however, it keeps coming up !!
Schizophrenic
28 Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 6:16 pm
Tina
My daughter is 34 years old and was in a clinic because of the drug "Pep" (Speed). There she was given pills but she does not take them. She hears voices, has paranoia, screams, cries, and becomes highly aggressive when she has a boost. Who can help me or her? She does not want to go to a clinic. What can I do?
Acute push
27 Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 21:42
tanja
My sister is suffering from psychosis and has an acute episode. The psychiatric service does not matter; even teems on the phone. I have to put up with it and protect myself. As long as she was not a danger to herself or others, nothing could be done. Is that supposed to be everything? My sister wants to leave the country. She has already twice left us and came back only after days. We do not know how to get her to the doctor ??? Who knows an advice?
always a difficult situation
26 Friday, November 24, 2017 at 19:52
Ella
My son suffers from paranoid schizophrenia. He is 34 years old. Now he has experienced the 3rd push. I am a bit disappointed with the social psychiatric service. There it is fully focused on the fact that mentally ill people can live out their right to disability. These sick people then lose their jobs or become homeless. There is the corresponding law. That does not help the relatives at all, sometimes I feel very helpless as a mother.
Care about my child
25 Monday, November 20, 2017 at 2:50 pm
Andrea
Hello,
My daughter is a drug addict and now has a very strong psychosis. She is currently in the prison, but she does not get any medication for it. What can I do, how can I help her? She would urgently need to go to a closed psychiatry, but no one can help me.
Great concern for our friend
24 Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 09:37
Corinna
A good friend of our group has been suffering from severe negative schizophrenia for 2 years. He has not taken any pills for a long time. He quit his studies and he also throws his transitional jobs one by one. He says that he is the chosen one and everyone (yes, the whole world) knows it, but nobody begrudges him and therefore does not speak. He hears people's voices and they provoke him or make fun of him. He wants the whole thing to be publicized and does not understand why this has not happened for a long time. He can communicate with people who are not within reach.
Schizophrenic
23 Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 8:11 pm
Sir
My 12 year old daughter is schizophrenic. She has been in a clinic for three months and will soon be in a shared flat. We are from Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and the shared flat is in Hesse. My child and I do not want that and I think that we do not take our opinion into account.
Fear of partners
22 Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 11:27
I
At first, I thought my partner is getting a little bit hazier when he was looking for cameras in our apartment half a year ago. We've been together in the rest for 10 years and before that everything was normal.He claims the neighbors pretend to have a child and rumble around to torment him, and you hear it's the hopping little girl. He says that's actually the child of the twin sister, only I do not get it. They do that extra to make him crazy. He threatens to rise steadily and do violence to them.
He yelled at me for hours yesterday; that I did not know what it's like, if someone reads and answers all the thoughts and if I've dealt with telepathy too, I'd finally get it ... yesterday he became so aggressive, wanted to "kill" our neighbors, I could with a vengeance to hold just where he hit with his fist against the wall next to me. Apparently his hand is sprained now.
I'm scared and I do not know what to do, I say, he should go, he turns around, wants to beat the neighbor or he talks to me and gets aggressive. I'm worried that if I Call the police, who do not take him with them and know what he will do to our children, the neighbor's mother or me.
I can not hold him anymore. Everything he demonstrates about misconduct, he justifies with the neighbors. Only "I do not fool, how guilty they are!" ... when he woke up this morning, these prayer-like rants / curses directly went on these people. He wants to prove to me that there lives a "Manni" and no child at all and he will not go until he has defeated them! In addition, he hates me even more, because I do not believe him, but it does not matter what I say now, he snaps and looks at me abysmally despising on the side. Who can I contact to remove it safely and gently for all of us from the apartment ????
We relatives do not know any further
21 Wednesday, the 08th of February 2017 at 22:29
Susanne
Our mother is 77 years old and has been suffering from paranoid schizophrenia for about 40 years. For a long time, she was well prepared for medication so that she (and us) could lead a relatively normal life. Through a hospital stay, where she has probably kept her schizophrenia medication, the whole drama started. She moved to her own flat, left our father and her condition got worse.
She came into her in-patient treatment against her will. After that she was stable again for a while and everything was so good. But for about 8 years she can not be treated anymore.
We've tried everything ... now it's so bad that she spends all her money on new locks. Everyone, but everyone really wants something bad for them. Us children (now already 50 and more) mothers them to unbearable. Worries about us and their grandchildren. That's why she's already done so much that we're done with nerves. She drove 200 km by taxi for a reason only she understands. She was found at two o'clock in the morning at a train station, picked up by a bag and a bag on a street, called the fire brigade, was on the bench and wanted a loan of 10,000 euros, stands daily with one of her sons in front of the house with bags full of food. ..I can extend this list arbitrarily.
In the meantime she does not trust anyone anymore, at least a little bit to us children. That's no life for her anymore. Everyone wants her something bad, in their opinion, and their extreme mothering is hard to bear for us children. And we do not know any further. She thinks she is healthy and it is getting worse and worse. In the meantime, she was twice in inpatient treatment (against her will), but there she can not help either. We are finished and feel helpless. Always this fear that the phone is going and something has happened again.
It must be treated, but it is not aggressive or suicidal. So there is no way to help her. We have to watch her illness ruin her. And nobody can help her. It is terrible.
Nobody can help my mother anymore
20 Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 11:42
The fourth child
I love my mother. It started 9 years ago. It was the same with her brother. At the age of 70, her carefree postwar life began to change. Your evil direct neighbor has triggered it. Medication over the years made her so apathetic that she could no longer live. It turned out that her one remaining kidney also has cancer and with the age-related drug composition with the resources of the neurologist are no longer possible. She only takes her daily chemotherapy pills for 4 years. What else is not possible.
She thinks her neighbor is watching her through the walls, and a group of people are dragging her around day and night, which only she hears. Otherwise, they turn off the devices when the phone rings or one of us comes. They send lights through her house and when she is not there they go for a walk with her. They want to get rid of them, expose them, dispossess them, forge papers ... and what's bad to hear is to gas them with gas, shower them and thus poison them.
In addition, she had to complain in time the loss of her husband and her eldest son. Each with one year of serious illness before death.
We meet her with much love. Listen to the same absurd things every day and try to change them with nice, positive things. We three remaining children refuse us. Because she sometimes tells hair-raising things that would eventually make us hate each other bit by bit.
When you realize that a loved one suffers from panic anxiety on a daily basis because the head is telling an impossible thing, then you know that every phone call, every minute you soothe it, is a good happy moment. Even if she plays it down.
From time to time you should look for something if possible. You can not always be the patient sympathetic family member or friend. It helps me to consciously devote time to talking on the phone or driving by, and then relying on it.
We promote social contacts. Protect them from incomprehension in their environment, in which we inform secretly about their, their unconscious state. Maybe it will help one or the other. It is never easy. But who said life would be easy?
Cousin / schizophrenia?
19 Tuesday, 06 December 2016 at 14:22
Ivo
Dear forum,
I write to you because we care a lot about my cousin. He is currently out of treatment and has never been treated, but has himself stated that something is wrong with him. Here is a short summary:
- age 31 years
- Cannabis use since the youth / parents separated since preschool age
- School drop 12th grade
- No training, nothing done for several years, then worked half a day for 1 year, unemployed for 1.5 years, does not do anything now
(almost) no friends, his girlfriend left him 1 year ago, has big problems with noise (neighbor is always too loud, he immediately develops a hatred) (of hallucinations, etc., we know nothing, delusions have not noticed so far) , sometimes depressive episodes, often restless with transition to aggressive appearance.

I know that remote diagnostics are difficult to set. I would still be glad about your opinion.
We have been telling his mother for 10 years that she urgently needs to confront him for something to change. He pulls the money out of her pocket, pays everything and does not think about working or simply can not work. We do not know it. How can you break this vicious circle? We also do not know how to behave. So far it has always been so that his Ausraster, his behavior were smiled away. However, the situation has worsened considerably, which is why I seek help from you.

Many many thanks!
Your Ivo
Help rarely comes fast
18 Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 19:44
Stina
Resignation sets in when quick help in emergency situations is needed ....
Schizophrenic partner
17 Friday, September 30, 2016 at 5:09 am
Rosamunde
This is often asked - what to do when thrust announces. I did not know that my partner is schizophrenic and already had a psychosis behind him. He never took medication, so I could not properly classify behavioral anomalies and was virtually overwhelmed by his paranoid psychosis.
After a sleepless night, I got counseling on the internet, interviewed the family, tracked down the attending physician and made an appointment. By the way also ev. Hausbesuch discussed, if partners refuse to go with me to the doctor, since he was completely healthy in his opinion.
After changing his mind every 5 minutes, I managed to get him to the doctor and give him therapy with Zyprexa. He responded well and after about 2 weeks the worst was over. It also turned out that he had donated a large part of his savings in his psychosis to charitable associations. With medical reports and corresponding letters I managed to get him back the money.
My partner had his first push only at about 54 years and his doctor sees stress and his almost deafness as a trigger. Anyway, I will help him and pay attention to behavioral changes. He goes to check at regular intervals and I have email contact to the doctor and so we adjust in between the therapy.
Living with a sick partner is not easy, but you can get help with support groups. Perhaps it is also important that my partner knows he can rely 100% on me and I would never do anything against his interests.
urgently need advice
16 Sunday, 04. September 2016 at 20:07
sophie
Hello,
my friend already suffers (according to self-statement) for 6 years of schizophrenia and I do not really know how to handle it. I've seen a few seizures myself, where he was "like a substitute" and talked confused stuff. It has also happened that he beat me. We both suffer a lot and I strongly advise him to go to a doctor with me. Today he arrived crying and said his "inner voices" would tell him to kill me. I would like to help him so much. But I'm a bit scared since this information.
lovely
15 Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 8:37 pm
Quiet
They should leave him alone and not annoy him further, as it worsens the disease.
to Ines: somehow enable a doctor-contact
14 Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 10:59 am
Navigator Team
Hello Ines,
yes, that sounds a bit like it could be a schizophrenic push. Of course, that's not the case from afar.
Our advice: As described above, see a doctor, and if he does not want, maybe get one in the house. You can not enforce all that, that's why it's difficult, but you should try again.
Best regards
Your navigator team
Need advice
13 Friday, April 22, 2016 at 10:55 pm
Ines
Hello,
I think my son (24 years old) is similarly ill. For some time now he has been getting into something that has to do with paranoia (cars in front of the house spying on us). This is the second time since the beginning of March. In between, everything went well and he was looking for our closeness, not anymore now, he completely capsules himself.
It scares me, because he has always had depressive episodes, what can I do?
He refuses any help!
LG
my son is affected
12 Monday, January 25, 2016 at 09:37
Andrea Pfitzmann
We do not know how to behave, our social contacts are all in the breaks
How to help ?
11 Tuesday, 18 August 2015 16:46
Elise
My sister is also ill and needs urgent medical attention, but we do not know how to convince her to go to a doctor. She clings so tightly to her stories and thinks we're all against her. How do you get sick people to help themselves?
a flatmate suffering from schizophrenia
10 Friday, June 26, 2015 at 1:23 pm
And I
Hello,
For some time now I have been struggling to find that a flatmate with schizophrenia is confronted with sentences such as, "You no longer have them all," or when you talk about them, with sentences like, "When you talk to the wall" ! I myself am a wheelchair user and had to experience similar experiences. Therefore, I have more understanding for these situations than some others. But sometimes my hands are tied too. How can I help her effectively in this situation?

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My friend
9 Monday, June 22, 2015 at 22:02
Hava
Is it dangerous for me? He thinks, someone has sent me to him, he always blames me, he watches me while I sleep, all this scares me.
I'm scared he'll kill me, he threatened me he would do that if I left him.
He's in the clinic now, calling me and telling me they've told me, hearing voices, feeling watched, delusional. I try to listen to him and calm down, but that usually does not help, he talks a lot of things. Or when children laugh, he thinks they are laughing at him. I do not know how to continue, I love him so much, but he does not let anyone help, thinks, everybody wants to do something to him. I've been doing this for 3 years.
He does not believe anyone, they are all his enemies. I'm scared he's running amok. With him it is now about the existence, he may not go home, must stay there. That makes him ready, I'm also afraid that he takes his life. I'm so desperate, I do not know what to do anymore.
It is almost like dementia. There are people who see, hear, yes, I believe in things. I tolerate and accept this disease.
I can not sleep for joy, because I will see my sweetheart and will always keep to him, I will always be there, in good as in bad days, because I know very well that he can not help it. Please support your wives, men, children, neighbors, do not look away, give an ear to these people, take their fears seriously, do not label them as crazy.
I've lost many good, kind friends through suicide, all through suicide. They were labeled as obsessed by friends, families, environment. No one wanted to deal with this disease, and I find that sad.
Please, no matter who reads it, trust these people, take them seriously, do not stop. They are not dangerous, just helpless, they are afraid because they do not know what to do about it. Join her!
helpless
8 Monday, 18 May 2015 08:54
kleen
My sister has been suffering from schizophrenia for more than ten years, always up and down, at the moment she is denying the medication revenue.
She can not express, communicate and suffer from extreme paranoia.
I'm so worried, this morning I went to her doctor, but he did not want to talk to me. I just wanted to ask him for help, ask him what I can and should do.
She writes me confusing messages, e.g. "ready for slaughter".
I'm so worried and do not know who can help, she refuses.
Help is not wanted
7 Friday, May 15, 2015 at 10:18 am
Caritinchen
My sister is now ill for many years and refuses medical visits.
The social service does not help because my sister does not show up there and does not let anyone into the apartment.
She urgently needs a guardian, but the guardianship court needs a medical report. What they write is theory, in practice nobody helps.
I live 500 km away. Now my sister will be evicted on Monday.
Ex-boyfriend in Thailand with suspected paranoid schizophrenia
6 Saturday, February 21, 2015 at 15:30
kira
Hello,
that's all terrible to read .... a lot of power for you all ...

I have a similar problem, even if it's different.

My ex-boyfriend is probably suffering from paranoid schizophrenia.
I knew him 5 years, was with him for a year and it all came very slowly.
Delusions that everyone would hate him and get ready to kill him, up to very aggressive behavior ..
I always wanted to go to the doctor with him, but he did not want to and in the end I separated myself from him.
He quit his job, sold his beloved car and just left for Thailand without speaking the language, let alone English.
He runs crazy and delusional through a foreign land, has lost everything here and I am so afraid that he does not come back alive ...
The police could do nothing, a medical officer who was involved, let him just go .. He was interrogated in Hamburg and in Frankfurt before leaving the country by a medical officer and they just let him run.
He never wanted to see a doctor and at the time I did not really know that it was all about him.
Heidi & Karla
5 Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 5:50 pm
Kelly
Apologies
I exchanged the names.
For my / our situation the court hearings on 20, 24 February and 03 March 2015 take place at the Gera district court.
Also, I / we will not rest until these sufferers are not treated like lepers (only in a modern way and way!) Until justice, logic and. Fairness takes place.
Help for schizophrenia patients and their relatives
4 Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 17:42
Kelly
Hello Heidi,
I assume that you at a social psychiatric service or similar. work, because exactly these reactions I received from my environment / authorities / police.

Dear Karla,
as well as me as a mother fared from 2012 to 2014, despite medical report, which was sent to the police, despite several begging e-mails to the Soz.Psych.Dienst, etc. I got the same answer: I should wait until something that means he should endanger himself or others. This endangerment was but since at least Oct. 2012, etc. It did not interest anyone until he stabbed me down on August 23, 2014 in Gera-Untermhaus (see report on the Internet, etc.)
Karla
3 Monday, 09 February 2015 02:25
Heidi
If no one feels responsible, unfortunately only wait or if the assumption that the person concerned can not take care of himself in the form of non-compliance with payment obligations such as (apartment rental, insurance, etc.) to the responsible care authority (probably responsible is the on Place of residence of the person concerned).
Normally, care is only requested for a person who agrees. However, if the person concerned is against it, but can not take care of his own affairs, it can be checked whether not against the (natural) will can be applied for a care. Here, if necessary, a mental health report would establish the health status of the person concerned. If you want to know more details, please call the responsible support authority.
For the correctness of the information no liability is taken over.
All the best and my deepest sympathy.
Help with schizophrenia
2 Tuesday, 06 January 2015 at 13:18
grief
So I've found that listening and quiet conversations help better than doctors or stay in psychiatry. It is incredibly difficult and takes a lot of time but is still better than a doctor who simply gives you more pills to reassure you.
How can you help people with schizophrenia?
1 Saturday, 03. January 2015 at 10:33
Karla
"... and ensure that those affected get help quickly". Just ask yourself how?!? I have a family member who has paranoid schizophrenia. At present, relapses are increasingly being observed. However, nobody in the health sector feels responsible for him. Again and again we hear the phrase "as long as there is no foreign or intrinsic hazard, we can not do anything". Who can I address if the SPD, crisis emergency service does not feel responsible and they only throw a paper of information into the mailbox? Who is responsible and who helps? !!?